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Post by tarnished on Jan 29, 2013 17:53:30 GMT -6
Do any of you fight this problem. Here in good ol Ohio, the weather has gone from about 20* to 60* overnight. This means that everything in my barn is WET! My shed is used as my woodworking shop, and when the weather is like this it just about rains in there. The floor is coated with moisture!  Condensation on floorAll the saws, presses, jointers, and anything else metal in there is wet! Even the benches have a nice wet coating as well. Seems like anything that doesn't have 2" of wax on it will instantly flash to rust!   Name in condensationI wax all my machines, but there are always places that the wax is thin or rubbed off and it will rust overnight. My barn has a 6" concrete slab, but there isn't anything under it to stop condensation from entering the slab. Now the barn is just that, a barn. Meaning that it has too many cracks, gaps and openings to ever get sealed up, so it is basically open to the outside atmosphere. When we get these cold to hot days here in Ohio there dosn't seem to be anything I can do to stop the rain forest affect inside the barn. I keep a couple fans running which helps to dry things out, but it takes about a week before things recover. 360 days out of the year, it is just fine, it's those 5 other days that are causing me to be "Tarnished"!  Anyone else face this problem? How do you deal with it where your at? And what do you use to stop the flashing on your old arn? Thanks for your input. John: Rusting away in Ohio.... |
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Post by ken on Jan 29, 2013 18:15:22 GMT -6
tarnished
Can you put a visquine type of plastic on the cement or use a sealer to keep the moisture from coming up.
then keep a wrirly bird type of vent sucking moisture out of the building .
I did put a coating of sealer on my floor and air vent in roof. this keeps the build up of moisture.
Also use candle wax on metal tools.just rub it on when having a warm day.
Wood handles and items don't like to be rusty.
There may be a lot of designed methods but this worked for me.
ken
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Post by tarnished on Jan 30, 2013 18:52:40 GMT -6
Ken, dont' think I can put visquine on top of the floor now. It would get damaged when I move equipment over it. The slab was "sealed" after pouring, but that doesn't seem to help. Thought about paint, but think it would just peal from moisture underneath. Vent may help, will have to think on that one. I do keep my machines waxed, both with Johnson's yellow can, and paraffin melted in mineral spirits. Work's pretty good except in cases like this when the machines actually sit with a coating of water on them. Heating would help, but I can only realistically heat the barn when I am in there. Anything else is just throwing money in the wind. Sometimes I really long for one of the newer pole barns full of insulation and heat, all tight and comfy, but...  |
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Post by brewswane on Jan 31, 2013 6:11:47 GMT -6
We have the same problem here when the weather changes. The tools in my toolbox sweat. Any kind of sheet plastic including VisQueen will cause condensation to form under it. This is worse than leaving things exposed. If exposed, things can dry out. Moisture trapped under Visqueen does not dry out. My barn is 40X100X14. Its open under the eaves and at both ends. You cant get any more vented than that. I hate it but the only thing to do is use a dehumidifier, commonly known as air conditioning and I sure cant afford to air condition that much space
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Post by threej on Jan 31, 2013 15:29:34 GMT -6
Put in a ceiling fan or box fan to keep the air circulated. It helped in my detached garage which is insulated but not heated unless I am going to work out there.
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Post by tarnished on Feb 2, 2013 17:53:20 GMT -6
That's what I end up doing, letting an old fan run to move the air. It will dry up but the damage is done to the machines by then. If I expect this to happen and start a fan early, it really helps. Just to have to be on it. Only real cure I know is to build a Tight New Barn and Heat it... YEAH!  |
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Post by Paul on Feb 6, 2013 22:46:23 GMT -6
I put the heaviest polyethylene sheeting I could find down before I had the concrete floor poured, so that helps retard ground moisture permeating through the floor to some extent I'm sure. But there are so many cracks and openings in an old barn that the air leakage is really unmanageable, and my stationary tools sweat like anything when the weather changes, which here in NJ is sometimes day to day. I think the only hope is to build a segregated and relatively tight room within the barn for special equipment, tools, projects, etc and keep some trim heat/AC in that special area throughout the year. What else can we do?
And if moisture isn't enough of a problem, I need to find a way to keep mice out of my parts and hardware cabinet drawers. Dryer softener sheets didn't work for me. And today I found out I have a squirrel running around in there. Time for rat poison I suppose.
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Post by Paul on Feb 6, 2013 22:48:21 GMT -6
Put in a ceiling fan or box fan to keep the air circulated. It helped in my detached garage which is insulated but not heated unless I am going to work out there. That's a good idea . . . I hadn't thought of that. I'll invest in a couple ceiling fans for my barn. Thanks |
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